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Dean McCoy (Buffalo)
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Posted on Thursday, January 2, 2003 - 1:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just got back into jugging in the past 3-4 years. Guess I had forgotten just how much fun it can be.
We try to get there 2-3 hours before dark to get started and also in the morning,being there just before sunrise..We've used lines from 4ft to 16ft.
All of which have produced some big catches..
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greg c turner (Whitewhiskers)
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Posted on Thursday, January 2, 2003 - 4:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

welcome to the board Buffalo,good to see more kentuckians here im originaly from murray! done alot of juggin on KY lake
THERE IS A BIG DEFFERANCE BETWEEN KNEELING AND JUST BENDING OVER... FRANK ZAPPA
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A. Benito Luna (Gentleben)
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Posted on Thursday, January 2, 2003 - 7:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome to the BOC, Mr Buffalo!! From one jugger to another
"I am on the bloody trail of a wounded demon, and I think I am about to catch up to him!!"
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Jackie Kennedy (Joatflash)
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Posted on Thursday, January 2, 2003 - 9:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buffalo welcome to the catfish joint of all catfish joints. Jugs are fun, hard work, and a great way to find fish, and you know all this. Welcome to the BOC and plenty of juggers here, jug fishermen and jug tippers. Lots of good reading in BOC library. If you have any input please post it or ask any questions, we juggers need a spark of inspiration from time to time.
jk
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Jerry Trew (Jtrew)
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Posted on Thursday, January 2, 2003 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome to the board, Buffalo! I've done a lot of jugging on the Arkansas River.
Jerry

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Rex Birt (Catfish156123)
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Posted on Thursday, January 2, 2003 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buffalo; Welcome to the board alot of good info and great people here. Jugging is not legal here so we can not do it but sounds fun. Enjoy the site

Cheers to you

Catfish156123
Keep Setting That Hook
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Dean McCoy (Buffalo)
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Posted on Friday, January 3, 2003 - 5:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For you that jug the rivers.Do you prefer short lines on your jugs or longer lines..
Have'nt done much jugging on the river..
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Jerry Trew (Jtrew)
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Posted on Saturday, January 4, 2003 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's my setup for jugging the Arkansas, where they maintain a minimum 9' channel, but generally averages more like 15'. There are a lot of 25'-30' scour holes below the ends of the dikes, and in parts of the river, lots of sandbars, once you're out of the channel.

From where my line is tied to my jug, I drop down 6' and make a 4"-6" dropper for my first hook; 30"-36" below that, I make a dropper for the second hook; 30"-36" below that, a dropper for the third hook; about 12" below that, I tie on a 16p nail for weight. I use the nail because it's cheap, and doesn't hang up as much as a regular sinker.

For fishing where there are lots of strong boils, like on the Mississippi, you'd need a heavier sinker.

When I took my jugs over to the Tennessee River just below Chattanooga (60'80' deep), I was having very poor luck with my Arkansas setup. I added about 40' of line, and started catching fish.

I'm a firm believer in having the jugs set up for the specific waters you are fishing. Sometimes, I even attach a length of 10# mono to jugs, tie on a gold wire crappie hook, a splitshot, and go jugging for crappie. In the small lake where I generally do this, about 1/3 of my catch is catfish, with an occasional b@$$. I'd throw them back, but my daughter likes to eat the nasty things. Oh well, I've heard that some people eat carp, too. They're both pretty good bait.
Jerry

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Dean McCoy (Buffalo)
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Posted on Saturday, January 4, 2003 - 8:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jerry;
That sounds good. I'll have to fix me up some during these cold nights and give them a try.
It sure is good to find a site like this to get good ideas from experienced people like you and the others I've been reading...Thanks..
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FRANK CRADDOCK (Craddock1)
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Posted on Sunday, January 5, 2003 - 8:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have been juging since i was able to crawl. when i was growing up we use to go to lay dam on coosa river in alabama and slay the cats. i don't care much now for juging below dams. too hard to keep up with the jugs and too much work to gather them up and take them back up river. instead i like to get in the back of a big slough and let them drift slowly. i have tried all lengths of line and have found a 3 foot line with no weight on it is as good as you can get. my biggest cat has been 43 pounds but i catch many in the 20 pound range. i eat everything i catch so the bigger fish are not what i am looking for. they are a lot of fun to chase. i use pint clorox bottles so sometimes they are hard to catch.
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stan botkin (Chumer)
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Posted on Sunday, January 5, 2003 - 8:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would think that them jugs would drift real fast with hardly any weight on them. Wardens dont like them jugs here in Ks. So I run down the Kaw in north Ok. and set i'm. A lot of guys there, use 12 to 20 ounce cups full of cement with a heavy wire loop coming out of it for there weight. Them big ole cats can still drag em around but there cheap to make.
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Todd Richardson (3dukmn)
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Posted on Monday, January 6, 2003 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok fellow juggers...

Here is my situation. I have the jugs, but I am not very sucessful at it (YET!). I fish the Mississippi River below the winfield dam. The river as some know and some dont, runs about 5mph on average, and has deep holes right behind the dikes. The typical water depth in front of the dikes is about 8-14' deep.

My question is this...
Would you suggest using the jugs as stationary to avoid chasing them, or would you let them float? Also, if they were stationary or floating, what depth would you set your bait in these situations. I have heard 1' below surface, and I have heard 1' off the bottom, and I have heard every 3' to the top.

In the situation I just described, what would be my best plan of attack?
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Dean McCoy (Buffalo)
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Posted on Monday, January 6, 2003 - 1:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jtrew, ever jugged in the winter.
We are supposed to have some 50 degree days this week and I was just wandering whether to try some winter jugging or go squirrel hunting. We have been doing good on the squirrels...
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Jerry Trew (Jtrew)
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Posted on Monday, January 6, 2003 - 2:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Personally, I've never done any wintertime jugging, but until just a few years ago, I was one of those people that thought you couldn't catch catfish in the winter. I intend to do some, though. Because Arkansas law considers anchored jugs to be trotlines, and thus be checked once a day, rather than be in constance attendance, I'll probably start doing a lot more anchoring of my jugs whether it's winter or summer.

As far as depth is concerned, I've always had the feeling that 3' or even less is just too shallow. I've never run any tests, so I don't have any concrete facts to back up that feeling, so take that for what it's worth. At times, most of my fish have been caught near the bottom, and at other times, I've caught most of them on the top hook. So, I guess you could say that I favor having hooks ranging from near the top to as close to the bottom as possible.

When the Arkansas River gets up over the dikes, usually it's only a foot or two; not enough to safely run a boat over. Because my regular juglines get hung up on the dikes in that situation, I've always avoided jugging then. I believe it was Coach that was telling me that he fishes jugs with very short lines when the Mississippi is high, letting the jugs go right over the dikes. I can see where that might be very productive. In the spring, they fish or jug behind the dikes about 6'-8' deep for channel cats. They also use fairly shallow lines for jugging sandbars. And that's great for filling the freezer. But if I were after a nice photo op, I'd be running jugs with 50'-60' lines through the deep holes. Then do CPR--catch, photo, and release.
Jerry

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Tim Graham (Tgraham)
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Posted on Monday, January 6, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jtrew,

In the earlier post you described you jug setup with "dropper", what is this, or better yet how are you attaching the hooks to the main line?
What is your main line made of? What is the dropper made of? With this much line on the jugs, how do you stow them when you take them up?

I have jugged a little, but all my lines were less than 3' of mason twine and hook attached directly on end. Free floating. I use 2 liters, spray painted flourescent orange, and still have had several submerge, after looking for over an hour never come up. I hate this, its kinda like a gut shot on a deer. Killed but never harvested. I have had really good days, but mostly not so good days. Would like to try the deeper fishing as you have described. I do believe my better days have been in the colder months, so winter time can be productive on jugs.

Tim


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