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Jason R. Hampton (Log_jumper)
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 2:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Boy that was a wild ride!!! wading waist deep water, shoving your arm shoulder deep under anything that looks fishy, all with the hopes that something REALLY BIG will bite you! That is the craziest fishing idea ever....I loved it. Got a few questions though.

We "hogged?" a few catfish boxes that some family of mine leaves out during the season, noticed there was gravel in the bottom of the boxes. Doesnt seem that odd unless you understand the lake its in. All mud....has a small dry creek bed that it might have come from but Im not sure. Did the fish bring the rocks in for laying the eggs in? Or did the people who built the box put it in there for the same purpose? Will the cats nest in the box if there isnt any gravel in it?

Any advice or random info about hoggin would be appreciated, I have every intention of making this a regular fishing routine so i might as well 'buff up' on the subject! Thanks guys!!

By the way, being newbies, we didnt catch anything. But it was really touch and go for awhile, you know!? My buddy got a nasty bite by an unseen cat that we guess to be a 15+ flatty. Anyone ever heard of guessing a cats size by the thickness of the row of teeth on a cat? Anyway, it literally inhaled four fingers clear up past his knuckles. Left a red rashy looking scar from the teeth an inch thick and the width of his hand. It had to be big.
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Tom Flynn (Froggiestyle)
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 10:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jason,

I assume that "hoggin", is noodling or grabbing. I never tried it myself. Last winter the Discovery Channel actually had a Noodling segment. And just like I was told, when I saw these guys missing parts of there fingers on the show it pretty much confirmed that in my opinion it's not worth risking noodling. Catching big Flats is cool, but it's not worth feeding snapping turtles using your fingers. Flats and snapping turtles tend to favor the same cover around submerged tree stumps.

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Nick Darling (Big_nick)
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 12:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with Tom. There isn't a fish in the world that is worth one of my fingers. Those snappin turtles will take one off in one quick bite.
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Jason R. Hampton (Log_jumper)
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 1:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I appreciate your concern, and, true enough there are plenty of risks. Loosing a finger would be a shame. Especially since im down to nine myself due to a factory accident a while back. But, all the same, I reckon I'll keep doin it. If you ever got the notion to go once, you'ld keep going. Certain amount of adrenaline involved you know? I dont care for roller coasters, bull fighting, or boxing, so extreme fishing will suit me fine thank you. Anyway. Anyone got any constructive criticism?
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James Thurman (Jtholder00)
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 2:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont think these guys were being decontructive, they were simply stating that they themselves would not partake in said activity.. But, with that being said, there are plenty of people on this board who do take part in catfish grabblin.. Do a search for grabblin or noodling and you will find what you are looking for.
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Nicholas C. Ulbricht (Brownuns)
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(Jason)You my friend are a brave soul.
If it looks spooky at night, theres probably catfish there.
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randy stoneberger (Vacatfish)
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jason not being rude but the pot don't need stiring if there is no reason to.

Asking for the conments like that will get you plenty.

I put down noone for there way of fishing but if it's to bad i try to bring to there view a better way.


So now my ? is why did you ask for brothers to post conments like that is there a answer.

Im sure they not going to fall for and say your craxy dumb or whatever.

Infact atlest you not sticking your hands into a hole in the bank or are you.

If so all i can say is good luck. keep fishing.

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Grant Dickerson (Grant_fisherman)
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Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 10:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

all i got to say is Jason YOU THE MAN if you go grabbin a giant fish in some dark hole
im like a broke nintindo i dont play no games
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Jason R. Hampton (Log_jumper)
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 12:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I certainly dont want to 'stir any pots' and I apologize for any undue rudeness I might have shown to any brothers posting on this thread. Thanks also for reminding me too check the archives James. I've read many posts in the past, but none about noodlin hoggin grabbin or otherwise cat wrangling.


Any way, Im just asking if anyone else has tryed it, or has any advise as to building cats nesting boxes.
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Tom Flynn (Froggiestyle)
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Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jason, in all seriousness...


There are companies that make special gloves that are mostly used for people that are butchers and commerical fisherman. It's simply a glove made out of Titanium chain mail. I know a few catmen that swear by these gloves that they use when there noodling. And Jason I ment no disrespect.

frOg
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Danny Bruce Estep Jr (Arkansaswhiteskin)
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Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 5:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, good point. Jason, I grew up "grabbin" and we always wore work gloves while we were doing it. Just the ole brown, gardening looking ones. They will protect your skin from the teeth. Not to try and scare anyone, but, you need to be really careful when checking the holes, or boxes, to make sure there aint a big alligator snapper in there. My friend, when we were Juniors in HS, lost half of his pointer finger and the tip of his middle finger to a very large turtle. We reckoned it was easily over 50 lbs. He didnt let it stop him though. He still goes to this day. He's just alot more careful nowadays. He wont reach into a hole without pokin a stick in there to see if the thing is hard or soft. I think his paranoia is justified.
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Jeremy Willis (Willisjj)
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Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 6:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know people back in Oklahoma that go grabbin' specifically for alligator snappers. Thats crazy. I don't mind noodling some cats but don't care to run into any of those monster turtles!
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Jim M. Kelly (Baitfish)
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Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 8:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've seen 100lb snapping turtles around here,i ain't stickin my hands into nothin i can't see. My dad use to dredge ditches and he would bring home giant snappers all the time. I like eatin em but i don't want them eatin me!
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branden stombaugh (Stolib)
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Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My dad has been hoggin' in central IL for probably 30 years. Catches a lot of big fish, but they lose a lot of skin, too. They usually take a long stick (broom handle) with them to put in the holes and logs. If they feel a pull on the stick or the fish "chugs" in the log or hole, they know they've got a live one. Oh, yeah, he sayst the flatheads have a pretty good bite, but the blues the run into every now and then are just plain mean. Good luck with it!

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billy vincent (Beespringer)
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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know they do alot of that around here and they really pull in the big flatheads,Iv'e always wondered how hard they are on the population of mature fish? Billy
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Nick Darling (Big_nick)
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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 4:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think anyone meant any harm in this thread. It just goes to show that it is hard to detect inflection in voice when you are reading a message. No hard feeling to anyone.
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branden stombaugh (Stolib)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 12:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wondered the same thing. Most of the guys that Dad goes with don't spend a lot of time finding new holes or logs. They run the same 5 or 6 spots all the time, so I guess if a fish stays out of those spots, they're fairly safe.

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