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George W Ostrom (Katfshn50)
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Username: Katfshn50
Post Number: 4326
Registered: 11-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 8:14 am: | 
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There must be somethin wrong with the channels in the delaware. LOL! I use a carolina rig with a 3 ounce no roll sinker and a 7/0 or 8/0 hook loaded up with fresh chicken liver. I get runs like ya would'nt beleive. I'm talkin screamin reels. Take another drag of my smoke and set that circle hook properly. LOL!
DON'T WRITE A CHECK WITH YOUR MOUTH THAT YOUR BUTT CAN'T CASH
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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
 BOC STAFF
Username: Whistler
Post Number: 11802
Registered: 7-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 8:51 am: |
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Rod Mize click here to see some help for new members. These tutorials can be found under your name as in the pic below.
Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee
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chad kilpatrick (Km5qf)
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Username: Km5qf
Post Number: 164
Registered: 2-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 9:51 am: |
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The chicken liver is a fickle mistress indeed. I concur the mention of threading the shank of the treble hook thru the liver and using a lofting type cast. I've never had any luck with beef liver, yhea its tough as nails and stays on the hook but ive not produced the fish to justify its use as bait. My biggest cat this weekend was caught on a liver in eight inches of water off of a yoyo. Headed out soon to run the trotlines again.... wheeeeeee! Oh boy,, its even raining too.
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David Sitton (Dave53)
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Username: Dave53
Post Number: 319
Registered: 1-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 1:27 pm: |
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I just started using the nylon squares..but I'll try what ever George is smoking! I have only caught small cats on liver ... so far!
Lonedell, Missouri.
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Brian Stevens (Catcaller)
 BOC PALADIN
Username: Catcaller
Post Number: 1010
Registered: 7-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 3:15 pm: |
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George, our channels here will make runs like that too, but it's when a guy uses a weight to keep the bait stationary that it happens. When the bait is anchored to the bottom with a sinker you're waiting for a cat on the move to find your bait using its senses to locate it...and when it does its hit and run in the traditional sense. When a guy is drifting the bait with the current...you're taking the bait to the fish who is lying in wait for something to come to it...and when it does fall right in its face and smacks him in the nose, all the cat does is simply open its mouth and has dinner right then and there...and doesnt have to swim away with it...eliminating the run.
Always listen for the Ker-Plunk...if you dont hear it, your line may not even be in the water.
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Rod Mize (Danasdad)
 BOC KNIGHT
Username: Danasdad
Post Number: 216
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 6:42 pm: |
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Thanks Bryan!!!Wow, what a quick response. Somehow I had missed that listing. It answers a lot of questions. Course, I wouldn't expect anything else from this bunch!! Much obliged friend. ---Rod---
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Jeffrey Phillips (Khensu0213)
BOC INITIATE
Username: Khensu0213
Post Number: 5
Registered: 3-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 6:43 pm: |
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I use liver hooks. They work great for keeping the bait on. |
Rod Mize (Danasdad)
BOC KNIGHT
Username: Danasdad
Post Number: 217
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 7:04 pm: |
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Good reasoning Catcaller--Sorts like two pups after the same piece of biscuit huh? ---Rod---
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Hunter Bradley Joyce (Fishenfanatic)
BOC INITIATE
Username: Fishenfanatic
Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 9:35 pm: |
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hey i am new to the boc.. and i need some good things to use catfishen .... bait....
hunter |
Chris M Sheafer (Kccats)
 BOC ROYALTY
Username: Kccats
Post Number: 2552
Registered: 6-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:15 pm: |
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Welcome to the BOC Hunter.
Which type of catfish are you fishing for?
What size range are you looking to catch?
What kind of equipment do you have?
First thing to do is go the the BOC library.
There is about everything you could think of there on all aspects of catfishing.
Have I told you lately that I love you?
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Hunter Bradley Joyce (Fishenfanatic)
BOC INITIATE
Username: Fishenfanatic
Post Number: 6
Registered: 4-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:21 pm: |
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i have an ugly stik..i think 7ft... channel.. big , and as many as i can catch
hunter |
Hunter Bradley Joyce (Fishenfanatic)
BOC INITIATE
Username: Fishenfanatic
Post Number: 7
Registered: 4-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:23 pm: |
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and a mudville... south bend reel with 17lb. test stren . |
Chris M Sheafer (Kccats)
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Username: Kccats
Post Number: 2557
Registered: 6-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:30 pm: |
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Well, if your looking for big fish, I recommend using large live bait or fresh cut bait.
Shad is excelent as well as bluegill.
I catch catfish all the way down to 3 lbs on a 5 inch bluegill, but a 5 inch bluegill will give you a much better opportunity for a big flathead, channel or bluecat.
Your not going to get as many bites, but the bites you get will be good ones!
Have I told you lately that I love you?
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Matt Hardbarger (Teaysvalleyguy)
BOC EMPEROR
Username: Teaysvalleyguy
Post Number: 12942
Registered: 8-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:40 am: |
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Hunter welcome to the BOC, always great to have another new member.
Stinkbait is great, daughter makes it every day for me.
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Brian Stevens (Catcaller)
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Username: Catcaller
Post Number: 1014
Registered: 7-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 1:42 am: |
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Has anybody ever heard of beef melt? It is a muscle divider between a cows organs and his rib cage or something or the other. Anyhow...it is shaped like a very large cow tounge...and is very tough in its texture...yet is also bloody and it stinks...you practically cant pull this stuff off with your fingers once you've run your hook through it. Now i'm not going to claim that its every bit as good as chicken liver...but it is a viable...effective option when you're looking for something that will stay on your hook...and it is bar none the toughest bait I've ever tried. I am experimenting with soaking the melt in a shad/chicken liver blood marinade for a lengthy amount of time...along with some garlic and lemon juice in order to make it stink like liver does all by itself. You can get beef melt at any butcher that slaughters their own cattle at a very cheap price...I paid $3 for 4 big pieces of it...and it was enough bait to last for a half dozen full day fishing trips. It'll be rather large when you get it raw...just cut it into strips that you judge to be the correct size and put one or two onto a hook. Melt also freezes well...losing none of its toughness when thawed out. The blue cats here in the Neosho river love it...and so do the channels I catch out of some small lakes we have here and farm ponds also. No dead bait IMO is as good as liver is for channel cats and smaller blues (while they're still scavengers before they begin requiring larger meals such as shad and whatever else they can catch)...but the melt is an option...especially if you're tired of dinks chewing off your bait every cast, throwing the bait off during your cast, and constantly wondering if your bait is still on.
Always listen for the Ker-Plunk...if you dont hear it, your line may not even be in the water.
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Brian Stevens (Catcaller)
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Username: Catcaller
Post Number: 1015
Registered: 7-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 1:46 am: |
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By the way...where's the head chicken liver master guru at? I havent seen Egg post in some time now...anybody know where he is or heard from him?
Always listen for the Ker-Plunk...if you dont hear it, your line may not even be in the water.
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Rod Mize (Danasdad)
BOC KNIGHT
Username: Danasdad
Post Number: 223
Registered: 12-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:27 am: |
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Hi Hunter---Welcome to the BOC!!! Get ready to duck, with a wide open question like that. If you haven't already, I would suggest that you look at a bunch of older post. An answer is not question--it's which answer. Take your pick. ---Rod---
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michael Brewer (Brakeless1)
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Username: Brakeless1
Post Number: 180
Registered: 5-2003
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 3:08 am: |
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those pesky blue gills around here will steal all your liver off of your hook.
Catch and Release And
God Bless The U.S.A.
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Dale Kirby (Catbird)
BOC INITIATE
Username: Catbird
Post Number: 74
Registered: 3-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 8:23 am: |
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Hunter, welcome to the BOC!
I only eat the ones I keep.
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Jerry Trew (Jtrew)
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Username: Jtrew
Post Number: 5251
Registered: 3-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 9:59 am: |
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Catcaller, I've always had better luck with pork than beef. I've done some experimenting with chitlings, which are at least as tough as beef melt. I've added garlic powder, of course, but I've also added shrimp flavor from the flavor packets of Ramen noodles. Both seem to work equally well, when they do work. Like many other baits, sometimes they do great, and sometimes they do squat. Bacon stays on the hook pretty well, and sometimes works when nothing else does; because of that, I tried using some salt pork cut into 1/2" cubes on my jugs. They stay on the hook very well. We only caught one fish that weekend; it was an 18.5# blue. Only one fish could be a fluke, or since it was the only fish caught, it could be an indication that salt pork is a good bait. Gotta do more testing.
Jerry, Little Rock, Arkansas
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Brian Stevens (Catcaller)
BOC PALADIN
Username: Catcaller
Post Number: 1018
Registered: 7-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:47 pm: |
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Jerry, I've had nearly the same luck with the melt...maybe a little more consistent than you say you have had with the chitlins. The beef melt is the only cow part I have ever had any type of success with...and I put off trying it for a very long time because I was already discouraged with beef parts as bait. The method I claim more consistency with it is just letting it go with the current with little or no weight and small baitholder hook and drifting it down the river. Using a stationary rig with a heavy sinker keeping it in place has been less than desirable...and like you say...somedays are better than others. I have been to some pits and ponds where they loved it...others they wouldnt touch it. A friend of mine lives right next to Grand lake, Okla. and he jug fishes constantly...using chicken Gizzards for bait when he has no shad. I went once with him the year before last, and we used the gizzards and had an experience similar to what you did...we caught one 33 lb blue on the gizzards...like you say...I'm somewhat split on whether I'll ever try gizzards on my own since we caught only one fish that whole day...however the fish was a good one.
Always listen for the Ker-Plunk...if you dont hear it, your line may not even be in the water.
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Cody Nickolas Hillier (Katboy)
BOC INITIATE
Username: Katboy
Post Number: 2
Registered: 4-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 4:49 pm: |
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How do i keep the chicken liver on the hook? Whenever i cast my hook goes one way and the bait the other. And then whenever i do get it into the water i wait 2 min. and they are running with it. Also when i set the hook they always get away i catch 45% of what takes the line. Can you help me on these??? |
George W Ostrom (Katfshn50)
BOC SQUIRE
Username: Katfshn50
Post Number: 4335
Registered: 11-2003
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 5:05 pm: |
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Cody. Take a few minutes to READ the posts in this thread and I'm positive ya will be enlightened! LOL! Also like with any bait ya use make sure that hook point is exposed.
DON'T WRITE A CHECK WITH YOUR MOUTH THAT YOUR BUTT CAN'T CASH
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Doug Eggleston (Eggman)
BOC ROYALTY
Username: Eggman
Post Number: 3081
Registered: 7-2003
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:50 am: |
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catcaller, I am alive. been busy workin but finally starting to fish a bit. I have a really slow PC so it's a pain to get on and post very much. Thanks for askin though.
Cody, get you some No. 6 trebles with the spring on the shank, hook the meaty part of the liver on a couple of the points and then slowly wrap the liver around the shank. The spring will hold it on pretty good. These guys that use straight hooks are just feedin the fish for us to cach later....heh heh
egg
 Are ya gonna cut bait or FISH??!!
eggman in Central Missouri
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Cody Nickolas Hillier (Katboy)
BOC INITIATE
Username: Katboy
Post Number: 3
Registered: 4-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 3:46 pm: |
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thanks alot i'll use your tip. |
Daniel Rodriguez (Danielg)
BOC INITIATE
Username: Danielg
Post Number: 2
Registered: 4-2005
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:06 pm: |
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Hunter .....Welcome to BOC .... it's a great board! |
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