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Dan Nelson (D_money)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 7:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My buddy back home was telling me for the last two or three months that he has seen a 6x6 walking around down in his bottom that he planned on taking when rifle season came around. Well about a week ago he came to find out that someone had shot it already three weeks before the season starts. They people that killed it took enough to get it mounted, and left the rest for the coyotes. Well someone had been talking about it and turns out the the deer was a 6x7. and I gotta tell ya my buddy was hopping mad. I just don't understand why anyone would want to do that.
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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 8:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's the word disrespectful dumbass mean anything to you. That's what those that did this are. Probably coudn't find a deer in the woods to save their lives, so they go out and get one by spotlight or any other means that makes it easy. Hunting isn't done like that under any circumstances. We have a bad problem here with it as well. Tell him to set some trip flares all around his property and that ought to give em a thrill next time they poach on his place. Maybe even an arty simulator or two!
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Dan Nelson (D_money)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 9:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well the problem was it wasn't poached on his land. but he ain't seen that big buck in his bottom for a week or two now. I will pass on the info to him though whistler. I hope they catch those SOB's and take their heads to mount on the wall. That's BS if you ask me. I still can't believe that someone would do that.
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matt carpenter (Southcats)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 5:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it all sounds so familiar 2 years ago me an my cousin stumbled across 5 bucks that had been poached all that was missing was the horns, back hindquarters an the tenderloins we were both in rage so we called our local game warden they watched the area where it happened for 2 months until they finally caught the guy who did it. man hes lucky that the law caught him an not my cousin cause he would of been laying next to the bucks we found
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Kerry Weeks (Talon)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 7:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What I like is here in TX if they get ya, the Game Wardens Confiscate EVERYTHING used in the commission of the crime. Thats everything from knives to guns to vehicles and somtimes the houses. Now if they could only give stiffer penelties and more jail time.
Make em Bubbas Plaything ya know... :-)


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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 8:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Talon, that's the law here in TN too, if only they would enforce it more. There are only about 2 sometimes 3 wardens per county and that's just not enough. If you call them, they take hours to get there. The wildlife agency here is funded ONLY buy license sales and other revenues. Nothing from the state itself. It's a shame really.
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John Preston Baze (Jpb72639)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey,bryan,if they want to enforce it and the judges will back them up 2 or 3 per county is enough especially if they will get together and get the hot spots first in the state then go after the ocasionals in their own counties,I think you'll find that most of the poaching is done by the same people time after time and usually they either have a good lawyer or family connections enough to let them get off with a wrist slap,those kind it will take federal officers to get cause all the local fellas can do is get mad when the court lets them go.I think they oughtta be shot with the deer they leave laying there,i won't gripe if a man's actually useing the whole deer to feed a family but that shoot it for the horns and just take the hams and tenderlion whooooooo that burns me up.
ya ever hunted a spot lighter and shot his light out .22 mags and .223's are great for it.

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Kerry Weeks (Talon)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 9:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

220 swift and a 3.5 -10 leuopold works well for spotlights too and if person spotlighting gets hurt from flying glass an other stuff.... well poo poo does happen when your breaking the law, an I don't think they will be back to that area for a while.

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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In Tennessee, I can take 16 or 17 deer legally. That's if I buy all the licenses and get very lucky. If a man wants to hunt to feed the family, then there's no reason he can't do so legally. If it's because of hard times that weren't anticipated or something like that, then that's a different story. I agree with you that the game wardens should be sufficient, but they sit at the game check stations on opening day, and then you don't see them again the whole season. I hunt a lot on public hunting land, I'm lucky enough to have a wife that let's me get out camping with my friends almost every weekend of the season. So I probably spend about 8 weekends out in the woods. I've yet to even see a game warden driving around out there. The past two years I've been sitting up in a tree and started hearing dogs around sunup, pretty soon there were several deer running by, I didn't shoot at any of them. The hunters never came by. We even got the license number of the little pickup they were driving, it even had the dogs in the back. When we called it in, they said that there wasn't really much they could do unless they happen to see them in the act. BTW, dog hunting is not legal in TN. I guess my hunting ethics are way to high. I don't believe a person should have to do any of these things if he wants a deer. It's just too easy to do right. And another thing you are 100% right about is the good 'ole boy network here, many of the poachers here are definately getting away with it because they know or are related to the officials. These guys are the ones that give the rest of us a bad name when it comes to hunting.

Now I will get off the old soapbox.
Bryan
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Shane Herzberg (Ozzman02)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 5:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i tell you what, last year me and dad were out rappit hunting twords the end of bow season. we saw 5 doe skins and heads in the ditch. things like that, and the people that brag about it, have me thinking about possibly taking up a career as a DNR. not much money, but rewarding. there are ALOT of DNR here in black hawk county, but most of them are for local or state parks, there is only 2 actual county officers for black hawk, there needs to be more, that is another reason i am seriously considering the career. poaching is NOT ok no matter what the excuse. and someone that has to take an animal, fish, mammal, or reptile, illegally, just to make it easy or save 25 bucks for the tag, isnt a hunter, nor does not deserve to be called one, and needs to be struck dead

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matt carpenter (Southcats)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 6:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well said OZZ although we do not need to become a dnr officer to help it would be a awsome job i am really good friends with one an got to ride with him a few times to see what goes on they have a very tuff job an have to cover alot of ground in one day so i agree we need more but there is always the issue on who is gonna pay them
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Shane Herzberg (Ozzman02)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 9:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

as long as its not a damn desk job. when i get a job, no matter what its gonna have something to do with the outdoors. i would rather be outdoors and make just enough money then to be stuck behind a desk makin the big bucks.
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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 9:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good post Ozz, I agree wholeheartedly! I carry a cell phone and call about any and all poachers. I happen to live in the country and have some neighbors that think the deer here are their private stock. When I first moved here, they even had the gall to tell me that several deer crossed my land headed to their's and that I shouldn't kill any of them so they could have a reasonable chance to get them, after all they've lived here all their lives. Kinda made me feel really welcome, ya know? Thank goodness the rest of my neighbors are not like them. Needless to say, in the five seasons I've hunted my land, I've taken no less than 2 each season, and 4 one year. One of them came to the door one evening and asked if I had anything to do with the game warden being around so much. He said it was really cutting into their meat supply. These guys are farmers, and have a bunch of cattle, by gosh. Oh yeah, this was in July as I recall.
Bryan
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John Preston Baze (Jpb72639)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey whistler,where in the arkinsaw mountains did ya say ya lived???? you sound like you're real close to me,LOL, I'm just now bein considered a local and i've lived here 35 years,i ain't considered a furinner any more.LOL.


Tight lines and bent poles my bretheren B.O.C
Live and Let Live,Trust everyone but Keep your powder dry--It don't hurt to be a little paranoid either.
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Shane Herzberg (Ozzman02)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

another thing about poacing: it screws the ecosystem up. wildlife biologists and the DNR get the limit on deer every so many years, and those numbers have to comply with the ecosystem, and the carrying capacity of the deer. if poachers shoot alot of deer, coyote populations, for example, will go down, from starvation. the rabbit populations go up, after the coyotes go away, and no you have a rabbit problem. shoot all the rabbits then, fox or hawk/eagle populations may go down. so, poachers are not only giving a bad rep for hunters, but also ever slow slowly screwing over the ecosystem.
thats my opinion

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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JPB, I know the feeling! LOL! I just live my life and to heck with em. Most of my neighbors are fantastic and we help each other out as much as possible, but the ones I mentioned are just plain ole rednecks. I mean the kind that you mostly only read about. Poaching is a very sore subject with me, as you probably would have never guessed!

Ozz, you are definately a man beyond your years. No matter what else you do in life, never ever give up your sense of ethics and pride in yourself! You are definately on the right track, my friend. Hopefully I will have a grandkid as together as you seem to be at your age. Glad to know you Ozz, I mean that.
Bryan
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Shane Herzberg (Ozzman02)
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Posted on Friday, November 1, 2002 - 5:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey thanks bryan. im just telling y'all what i think. thats what this site is for.........
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"Jesse" Egbert Sr (Jesse168)
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Posted on Friday, November 1, 2002 - 7:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whistler In Tennessee I can legally take over 35 deer if I could find then. As you fill your quota in one area you can go to another area. There are 4 area divisions in Tennessee. Also with all the non-quota anterless hunts I have at this time permits for 12 anterless deer. Also for the special doe hunts I can take another 16 deer. All this is just in AREA 1 of Tennessee. The problem is finding them when the season opens.
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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
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Posted on Friday, November 1, 2002 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jesse, I didn't think about it that way! Good point! The chances of me finding 5 deer in my area alone are pretty low, but I have done it. Actually, I could hunt on Fort Campbell and take 2 or 3 more. Anyway, you are definately right. Why would anyone take the chance on getting caught poaching? Of course, you do have to have some hunting ability to take them legally! In my county (Dickson) I'm only allowed 1 in each of the quota hunts as a landowner. But if I wanted to, I could put in for the Montgomery County quota and take 9 more. I forgot about all that! There's just too many to be taken legally. Thanks for the correction, Jessie.
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"Jesse" Egbert Sr (Jesse168)
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Posted on Saturday, November 2, 2002 - 4:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whistler remember to have landowner exemption form filled out and in your possession when hunting on your own land. This is a new law that went into effect last year. A lot of folks don't know about it. It is to keep people from just saying they own the land. When they really don't.
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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
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Posted on Saturday, November 2, 2002 - 8:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jesse, already there. I learned from the store clerk where I check deer last year. Something they didn't really publicize other than the small paragraph in last year's reg. Goin out Friday to Westvaco land near Dover for the weekend. Ya know where that is? Been hunting there for 10 years and have taken many deer there. Hopefully this year too.
Bryan
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michael Brewer (Brakeless1)
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poacher's suck! real sportsman pay for conservation.
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The day after thankxgiving at 5:am I heard five shots up on the ridge thats runs accross my place. After what happened in Wisconson I didnt think it would be prudent to jump in the truck and drive up there in the dark. So long bout 15 after 6 I jumped in the truck and drove up there. Sure nuff 2 doe and a buck laying there.I went back to the house and made this sign....
NOTIS! TRASPASSERS WILL BE
PERSEEUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT
OF TWO ROTWILLERS THAT NEVER
BEEN OVER-SACHIBLE TO STRANGERS
AND A FATMAN WITH A 308 WHICH
AINT LOADED WITH PILLERS. DERND
IFIN I AINT GITTN TARD OF HELL
BEIN RAISED ON MY PLACE!!
BYT the deer meat was great!! smokey said that.

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Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 5:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You get caught poaching ANYTHING in Florida they take everything you've got!
See if you can get word to all the taxidermists within a hundred miles,like as not they'll stay that close to home.
Good luck!
and the Arty Sims are a great idea!
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tommy todd (Tommy)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 3, 2005 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

shooting at the spot light thats no better then poaching let the law do there job

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