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     James Teer (Bassadict69)  BOC SQUIREUsername: Bassadict69 Post Number: 184 Registered: 6-2003  Rating: N/A |
This may have been posted on here before, but if not it is pretty interesting. It is a list of organizations and people that are known supporters of groups AGAINST the NRA. http://www.nraila.com/FactSheets.asp?For mMode=Detail&ID=15 HAUGHTON, LA | ||
| mark johnson BOC INITIATE Username: Mark_j Post Number: 9 Registered: 9-2003 Rating: N/A |
i'm probally on that list , lol. i got pissed at their money grubbing mailings to the house. in my humble opinion if the top dogs of the nra were in the fight for gun rights from their heart there wouldnt be 7 figure salaries. i used to be worried about guns being outlawed until i remembered all the Americans that own them. i dont think there will ever be a legislative body with the guts. we arent canada,england , nor australia. if guns are outlawed, somebody has to come down all these johnston county, nc pig paths to collect em. i feel sorry for that dude. | ||
| Calvin D. Mabry (Calvin)  BOC PROTECTORUsername: Calvin Post Number: 373 Registered: 8-2003  Rating: N/A |
I couldn't agree more Mark. I quit giving them money when it seemed to me that they were more the National Republican Association than the National Rifle Association. They never supported any Democrat candidates, even though I knew some to be hunters and shooters and more pro gun than the person they were running against.A lot of that talk about certain politicians taking our guns is just so much paronoid propaganda. I am opposed to any gun control whatsoever, but also believe that taking America's guns away would be a much more difficult proposition than it was in some other places. | ||
| John Preston Baze (Jpb72639)  BOC STAFFUsername: Jpb72639 Post Number: 3897 Registered: 3-2002  Rating: N/A |
sorry gentlemen,but propaganda????? the clinton gun control act and the banning of so many firearms is not propaganda it is fact.you think kennedy,schumer,fienstein and their bunch don't want to make private ownership of all firearms illeagle????? You think all those law suits against firearm manufactuerers are propaganda??? Ain't so ya'll and anti gun fanatics come in all political parties.I ain't a goin ta go on or i'll be on a soap box and really carryin on,jest remember all them people all over the world that said it can't happen here that now have the law abidin people settin baricaded at home defenseless cause they found out to late it can too happen if ya let it through apathy. JMHO JPB Harriet,Arkansas Tight lines and bent poles my bretheren B.O.C | ||
| John Preston Baze (Jpb72639) BOC STAFFUsername: Jpb72639 Post Number: 3898 Registered: 3-2002 Rating: N/A |
oh by the way,that link don't take ya to a black list of any kind JPB Harriet,Arkansas Tight lines and bent poles my bretheren B.O.C | ||
| James Teer (Bassadict69)  BOC KNIGHTUsername: Bassadict69 Post Number: 251 Registered: 6-2003 Rating: N/A |
Try this link... http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/ Read.aspx?ID=15 HAUGHTON, LA | ||
| John Helman (Catsnjammer)  BOC PALADINUsername: Catsnjammer Post Number: 689 Registered: 6-2003  Rating: N/A |
Individual Democrats might be gun owners and/or hunters, but the party leadership is dedicated to the disarming of America. But don't worry, I won't get started. I just might not stop. LOL "Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after." - Thoreau | ||
| John Preston Baze (Jpb72639) BOC STAFFUsername: Jpb72639 Post Number: 3900 Registered: 3-2002 Rating: N/A |
hmmm,that link worked but it says nothing about a black list,it lists organizations and or groups that support gun control and gun banning legislation,it states facts and that is all,it does not say don't do buisness with these people,it says the groups lend support to anti gun legislation,a black list would say out front we do not want you to associate with any persons who are affiliated in any way with these groups,no where does it say that,it's a fact sheet pure and simple to let people make up their own minds. Hillbillyangler,don't think if they can manage(which they might if people don't wake up)to get the laws on the books that they would'nt try to do just that and if need be call in united nations troops to help them,it was done in parts of australia,our military i don't think would go to war with the american people,but if the bulk of our military is stationed out of country doing un police work then un troops not worried about our rights will be made available to do just that,a door to door home to home search and confisticate and if they are resisted they will fire on americans as most of them are closet american haters anyway.By the time our troops were able to get home to defend our citizens they would be surrounded by hostile forces already entrenched.(which is what the UN leadership wants,an excuse to enter our country with troops and the liberal socialist would welcome them)I admit,this is a worse case scenario but entirely possible if through apathy the general american public allows the liberal closet socialist with the hidden agenda of one world UN government, to gain full control of our legislative and judicial branches,and they will do it all "for our own good" MO JPB Harriet,Arkansas Tight lines and bent poles my bretheren B.O.C | ||
| michael adams (Buddyle) BOC SQUIREUsername: Buddyle Post Number: 143 Registered: 4-2003  Rating: N/A |
If they took Americas guns Im afraid the backlash would be worse than that during the prohibition days. Just imagine the organized crime element. ugly just thinking about it. Mike.... "There is no bad day fishing...unless your boat sinks" | ||
| Chris M Sheafer (Kccats)  BOC ROYALTYUsername: Kccats Post Number: 1516 Registered: 6-2002  Rating: N/A |
Well, I wrote a bit about this subject, and decided that it would only insite more "debate" and was just to much to the point. So, I will just say, Go NRA, Go Republican and buy lots of guns! (Message edited by kccats on February 18, 2004)  As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord | ||
| Tim Hade (Timotha7) BOC INITIATE Username: Timotha7 Post Number: 72 Registered: 1-2004  Rating: N/A |
Gun "control" has always been a sore topic for me, I own and will continue to own weapons, and I will not give them up easily, and I tend to think that most gun owners feel the same way... What causes me the most distress about this issue is the focus on gun control as a sure fire method of preventing violent crime...I once read somwhere where a law officer stated he felt that 95% of violent crimes were committed by 5% of the pop- ulation....IMO this is a correct estimate, our courts have become, all to frequently, revolving doors for violent criminals....There is no method of gun control that is going to prevent these people from continuing to abuse our society as long as the courts turn them loose to prey on inn- ocent people.... I think this country would be much better served if our fearless leaders in DC would get off gun control and get some serious focus on criminal control... Tim "Boy, it ain't called catchin, it's fishin!" | ||
| Jim Hudson (Jhudson13) BOC PALADINUsername: Jhudson13 Post Number: 814 Registered: 8-2003  Rating: N/A |
I owen about 28 different long guns and 14 handguns. I am always looking to buy more. I am a law abiding man however the though of some one trying to take my guns just has that little push that gets my temper up. I will support the NRA(National Redneck Association) which I am a card carring member of. I will also support the NRA (National Rifle Association) which I am also a member of. But I do some times get a little tired of them calling every few weeks asking for money. I will give what I can and when I can but asking a working man trying to make ends meet for a $100.00 every time, no way. Now as for some one taking my right to keep and bare arms well lets just say some one is going to get hurt trying to take my guns from me. There a fews things in life that I fell are worth my life, My Family, My Friends, My God, My Country and Yes My Rights. I will gladly give my life for any of the afore.  Anything I can for the Brotherhood and the family members Thank you, Jim "Gator" Hudson | ||
| Dayton Moses (Olefin) BOC KNIGHTUsername: Olefin Post Number: 246 Registered: 6-2003  Rating: N/A |
The threat of gun control is the reason I have been a LIFE Member of NRA for several years. My wife has been a member and has recently decided she will become a Life Member. If it wasn't for NRA citizens couldn't legally own a gun today. And thanks to NRA I have the right to obtain a license to carry if I wish. (and I do) I agree there is a some Democrats that don't support gun control but the majority are for more gun control or the complete removal of all guns from law abiding citizens. You people that cry about them asking for money need to remember it takes money to fight the powerful gun control crowd. (just like it takes it to operate this forum) All the news media are for gun control except FoxNews. Freedom is not free!  Criminals love gun control, it makes their jobs safer! God Bless the USA and Our Troops | ||
| John Preston Baze (Jpb72639) BOC STAFFUsername: Jpb72639 Post Number: 3904 Registered: 3-2002 Rating: N/A |
agree totally dayton,i am also a life member of the NRA,have been for over 20 years JPB Harriet,Arkansas Tight lines and bent poles my bretheren B.O.C | ||
| Dennis K Parker (Catfisher44) BOC INITIATE Username: Catfisher44 Post Number: 24 Registered: 3-2003 Rating: N/A |
You are right Dayton, Freedom aint Free. The NRA has fought hard for our rights..... Dennis Kings Mountain NC | ||
| R. Lynne Adair (Lynne) BOC PALADINUsername: Lynne Post Number: 601 Registered: 5-2003  Rating: N/A |
I don't like to get into politics but I am for the NRA. I was at one time a true Democrat but it started to seem as if they would sell themselves to any group to get votes. Many of thier choices went against my beliefs, and slowly I began to change the way I thought and felt. Thier stand on gun control is one factor that helped change my mind. I am niether Repubilcan or Democrat now. I look at the issues each man or woman stands for and then try my best to pick the one that I think will do the best job for our country. Heaven know that isn't an easy choice these days. Some may not agree and some may agree with my view. But that is all it is, my view. I am not trying to change anyone to believe the way I do. but I will give up my guns to no one with out a fight. It's up to each person to look at what the person stands for before voting, not the party he or she represents. IF GIVE UP OUR GUNS, WE LOOSE OUR FREEDOM Friendship is a gift It cannot be bought or earned It is given | ||
| Daniel Ray Harris (Dan_harris) BOC PALADINUsername: Dan_harris Post Number: 622 Registered: 6-2003  Rating: N/A |
It's happening bros...One of my best friends, Phil, Works for Les Baer. Makes the absolute best 1911 that money can buy. For those of you that don't know, a 1911 is a 45 pistol. Last year the entire company took the day off to go to a legislature deal, whatever ya call it. They were trying to ban ALL fire arms in IL ... Except for shotguns and such if I remember right, which you would have to register seven ways from sunday to be able to Legally have. I went with the group from Les Baer along with a bunch of others to protest this new law they were trying to enact. We as a whole were successful but not by that big of a margin. ILLINOIS RESIDENTS and everyone else for that matter, Pay attn to the bills that your state or congress is trying to pass. They may very well have to do with some of the rights you yourself hold dear. Speak out or lose those rights forever. Can you imagine wakeing up one morning and turning on the tv to see on the morning news that your guns you now own are illegal to have and that an officer will be contacting you soon to confirm what you do or do not have and tell you how to dispose of them because they are no longer legal to own where you live??? I would have an absolute fit, consider going postal, probably wouldn't though, and build a better hideing place for what I have before anyone comes to check. PAY ATTN BROS OR LOSE WHAT MANY OF US TAKE FOR GRANTED...WHICH WE SHOULDN"T... DAN...  YOUR WHAT HURTS??? Davenport, IA. (Quad cities) Its not a fire unless ya can see it from space. | ||
| R. Lynne Adair (Lynne) BOC PALADINUsername: Lynne Post Number: 604 Registered: 5-2003 Rating: N/A |
Dan, you are absolutely right. Couldn't agree more. Friendship is a gift It cannot be bought or earned It is given | ||
| Steve Dedon (Baitkiller) BOC SQUIREUsername: Baitkiller Post Number: 165 Registered: 5-2003  Rating: N/A |
I just put down a local paper that I read where well over 70% of the population were in favor of a CCW bill passage in Ohio. It took many many years before we where able to get the one that just passed. So it is OUR goverment that wants to control law abiding Ohioians, not the people. Goverments, as a group, in the last century KILLED three times more of their people, than what died in ALL of the wars put together that took place in that time period....FACT!!! <><baitkiller><>  Akron, Ohio | ||
| Calvin D. Mabry (Calvin) BOC PROTECTORUsername: Calvin Post Number: 379 Registered: 8-2003 Rating: N/A |
We are trying to get a CCW bill passed in Kansas too. It failed the first time around. It looks a little more promising this time. I hope it passes. | ||
| John Gonzales (Tx_cathunter) BOC INITIATE Username: Tx_cathunter Post Number: 15 Registered: 9-2002 Rating: N/A |
I have a CCL seeing how its legal in texas and am the proud owner of several firearms. I can honestly agree that freedom is not free and the NRA has done alot when it comes to fighting off the gun control crowd. It will be a sad day in America for both our history and other proud americans when law abiding citizens have to give up there firearms. I hope I won't be around to see it. | ||
| mark johnson (Mark_j) BOC INITIATE Username: Mark_j Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2003 Rating: N/A |
for me personally i would rather take the money and back a candidate that has the same views as i do rather then give it to lobbyists, afterall lobbyists dont make laws , the people we put in office do. lobbyists are two fold , there are some that you want to support for your ideas or beliefs but there is always the opposing lobbyists. you hear so many people talk about how government is full of lying cheating dirty politicians..........i reckon so with lobbyists standing on the doorstep with fists full of money. sure its great if its for your personal benefit but what if its not? as much as i love guns i still have to say there are issues that are more important right now to me and i think society as a whole in this country and i loathe the lobbyists that stand on the opposite side of the fence. politicians go to washington to make a career of it not as a day camp. political doom is a weapons ban, the anti gunners make up a small portion of the population. why do you think every politician in washington dont dive right into the abortion issue head on? POLITICAL DOOM. politicians only seem to speak about abortion when the cameras are off. sure you have a few idiots out there that have nothing to lose but that doesnt make a majority. the strongest voice in washington i have is through my senators and congressmen not a lobbyist group that deals with one issue. i can walk right into my senators office and sit down and talk about any issue that concerns me. i dont have a problem with the nra (except when i asked them for exact accounting of where the money went for a particular year) i got blown off of course. if my circumstances were different i would still be a member for a few of the benefits if nothing else. the only competition shooting i do is right here on the farm for beer money or at a sheriff's department range. nothing like getting on the good side of the law over some spent brass, just make sure you miss a few 500 meter targets so you dont piss em off . i'll still drink a beer for the nra , i just aint paying for it. my money is short so i need the best bang for the buck. | ||
| John Preston Baze (Jpb72639) BOC STAFFUsername: Jpb72639 Post Number: 3913 Registered: 3-2002 Rating: N/A |
Granted the anti gun folks are a minority,BUT,They are dangerous to our right to keep and bear arms,and if that right falls so will the rest,ya think they can't do it,uh huh,look at the gun bans they have got enacted,think it can't happen,look at the laws california has passed,ya think it can't go nationwide,get yer head out of the sand,they have supporters with influence,kennedy,schumer,fienstien,bill ery,they want to protect us from ourselves,from their taxpayer paid for security guards and fbi protected lives,they say we don't need the cabability to protect ourselves,they have never had to wait till a unit was available to respond to help them,law enforcement works hard and they do their level best ,but they are not able to be with every person in every home when danger looms,they all to often have to settle for finding the perpatrator of the crime and hoping that the judicial system actually punnishes them for it and don't let them plea bargin a walk out the door with probation and time served if any.We must have the capability and the right to protect our selves,our families and our property with whatever means that are needed up to and including deadly force,as many have said i'd rather have a gun and use it and face 12 peers than not have a gun and face the undertaker,and please don't say your property is not worth the life of another,you put a large part of your life into obtaining your property,when someone steals or destroys it, they are destroying a large part of your life and as far as protecting my family and my self,if someone is trying to hurt maim or kill then they have earned whatever they get. JPB Harriet,Arkansas Tight lines and bent poles my bretheren B.O.C | ||
| michael adams (Buddyle) BOC SQUIREUsername: Buddyle Post Number: 176 Registered: 4-2003 Rating: N/A |
Well said John. Mike.... "There is no bad day fishing...unless your boat sinks" | ||
| Dayton Moses (Olefin) BOC KNIGHTUsername: Olefin Post Number: 249 Registered: 6-2003 Rating: N/A |
Myself and the fine folks in Texas voted the Right To Carry into law while Ann Richards was governor. She immediately vetoed it... the first thing G. Bush did when he become governor was kill her veto and give the people of Texas what they voted for! Just thought some people might not know that. Also to point out the way most Democrats feel about guns. Every state that has CCW law has had to battle the Democrats. Criminals love gun control, it makes their jobs safer! God Bless the USA and Our Troops | ||
| Calvin D. Mabry (Calvin) BOC PROTECTORUsername: Calvin Post Number: 382 Registered: 8-2003 Rating: N/A |
Kansas is dominated by republicans and it was a Republican Governor that was opposed to our first attempts at CCW passage. Both parties have members that want to take away our gun rights. Both parties also have members that hunt, shoot, and believe strongly in the second admendment. | ||
| Fred buttons (Wascassman99) BOC SQUIREUsername: Wascassman99 Post Number: 103 Registered: 6-2003 Rating: N/A |
Hello all....im a supporter of the NRA...although on occasion we have our differences of opinion...remember the crocodile dundee movies?...the man that they actualy depict was killed by Australian government troops/policemen just a few years ago after he refused to give up his guns after the outlawing of ALL firearms in Australia...you can have a single shot.22 the last i heard if you can prove you live in the country and need it for stock protection/predator control...and get the ok from several governemnt officials and the local constable/sheriff...from the report i seen it made Ruby Ridge look like a trip to the circus..he was living in the "outback" bothering noone...it can happen here..and one day will if we all dont pull together..i doubt illinois will ever have a CCW permit..chicago is our downfall..most of our weapon laws/regulations come about because of chicago and actualy most fillet knives are theoriticaly illegal in illinois ...nothing is legal over a 5 in blade if i remember right...some catalogs have the warning/disclaimer on them about our regulations....by the way until the australian gun grab they had firearm laws almost if not more liberal then our own..good luck all | ||
| Ken Barrett (Catfishken) BOC SQUIREUsername: Catfishken Post Number: 192 Registered: 3-2003  Rating: N/A |
yeah i want to see the man that has to come get the guns also i bet he dont get but one and that is his own.lol Ken It's like freakin catnip fer clones. Streator,Illinois |
