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Bobby Morgan (E5catfish)
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Username: E5catfish
Post Number: 41
Registered: 1-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 8:47 pm: | 
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Can any of you brothers tell me of any websites I can go to to learn more about feeders and possibly see diagrams of how to make homemade deer feeders? I am possibly interested in making some for next year. Here's the situation: The hollar we hunted in this year didn't have any acorns, bad year I guess, we didn't see as many deer as we did last year when there was plenty of acorns and the ones we did see seemed to be only passing through from somewhere else. We believe they were staying hollars away or even miles away where there was food. We are considering feeders, not necessarily to shoot 'em while they're standing there eating, but more to keep them in the hollar we hunt in to help give us more to see and shoot at when season comes in. Any thoughts or advice on this problem? Bobby |
matt carpenter (Southcats)
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Username: Southcats
Post Number: 211
Registered: 8-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2004 - 2:04 am: |
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hey bobby, i dont know of any website like that but depending on how easy acess to the land is you could just spread the feed out by hand start doing it about 2 months before season another option would be to get some imperial no plow mix there is many different kinds out there now that dont need much sunlight an grow fairly good inside hardwoods. anyhow i have seen some homemade feeders with a 5 gallon bucket but the downfall is the size id prefer somthing larger so i wouldnt have to refill it as often |
Jack Eblin (Rivercatman)
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Username: Rivercatman
Post Number: 200
Registered: 12-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 3:03 am: |
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I see nothing wrong with it as long as the deer heard is at a high level.
River Flathead Hunter, and I release them all!
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Bobby Morgan (E5catfish)
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Username: E5catfish
Post Number: 42
Registered: 1-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 2:12 pm: |
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Thanks for the replys. I'm considering a 55 gallon barrell feeder. Still huntin for exact diagrams. |
Jon Saxon (Verotik)
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Username: Verotik
Post Number: 1148
Registered: 6-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 5:16 pm: |
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I hunt over a feeder. I dont see anything wrong with it myself. I feed the whole herd of deer and i have put out more that 600lbs of feed since July. And its not only deer either. The squirells and racoons probably eat most of it, and not to mention the bear problem i had. The deer in my neck of the woods dont rely on my feeder for food, its more like a treat for them. This season, i havent had a deer stay and eat at it for more than 5 minutes before it leaves.
Bobby, i started out with a 55 gallon feeder and have sinced changed to a 30 gallon. I made my own out of a plastic barrell. It was alot cheaper than buying one. If i can give you any advice, dont cut the top unless you have some way of sealing it back up. The first one i made, i didnt realize the impact that water seeping in would have on the corn. What i did 2nd time around was switch to a smaller barrell and made a funnell to pour corn in through the capped holes already in the top, and on the bottom where you mount the arms of the feeder motor and the funnel, i drilled holes and used the metal hollow wall anchors that compress to tighten. Also, at first i had my feeder on tripod legs. I had a bear tear the living crap out of it, so i switch to a system using a boat winch bolted to a nearby tree with a pulley slinged on another limb that the feeder hangs from so i can raise and lower the feeder and keep it out of reach of the bear. I can show you pictures if you want. Another thing i did, if you are building your own. I use the cheap moultrie feeder motor, because they do get water in them and go bad, so its cheaper to buy a $30 motor rather than a $60 motor. On the motor cover, i drilled a hold and mounted a momentary switch where i can momentarily disconnect the battery, just as long as im holding that button down. My feeder starts up as soon as you connect the battery, so when you hook it up, it slings corn in your face before you can get the cover back on. Also, it allows you to test and make sure the corn is coming out by disconnecting the battery and then reconnecting it without having to remove the cover. I wish i would have thought of it sooner!
Harrison, Arkansas
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Joe Ware (Gofish)
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Username: Gofish
Post Number: 1900
Registered: 1-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 10:02 am: |
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What method do y'all use to fish? Bait??? Is that ethical?
I hunt in Louisiana and Mississippi. It is legal to hunt over a feeder in LA but not in MS. I have had success in both scenarios. I don't have any problem using bait to attract deer just like I don't have any problem using bait or any other legal method to attract catfish. I don't think that corn feeders really increase the odds of seeing deer all that much. Deer are not dumb animals. Corn doesn't make deer pop out of the ground. Nor does it make them lose their senses. I see corn feeders as a supplement to the diets of many animals in the woods. It is a teaser as some of you have suggested. I agree with points on both sides of the baiting debate.
Using a feeder year-around can train young deer not to forage. That may be a bad thing. It may increase the risk of spreading disease. But, the disease must be present to begin with and there must be contact before spreading can occur. There will be contact in nature also but not as likely without the concentration at the feeder.
Deer prefer acorns over corn and usually don't have to go out of their way to get them (in a hardwood forest). I've seen corn lay on the ground until it sprouted while there were acorns in the near vicinity. So, corn is not a deer magnet.
Does it make you less of a hunter because you use bait? I don't think so. Does it increase the odds of seeing deer? Probably slightly. It was mentioned above (sarcastically) that one could put a feeder in his back yard and wait and he would be a 'hunter'. You could. And in the eyes of the law, you would be. Is it ethical? I don't know. Is it ethical to use a 300 magnum and kill deer that are 700 yards away? I don't know. Everyone has to make up their own mind about what is ethical and proper. Just because the law allows you to bait doesn't mean that you have to. Baiting doesn't guarantee anything.
Let's Go Fishin...
GREENVILLE, MS
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Jon Saxon (Verotik)
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Username: Verotik
Post Number: 1149
Registered: 6-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 5:09 pm: |
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Very good post Joe. I agree about deer using feeders as a supplement, but not as a complete food source. If the deer in my area used just my feeder as its primary food source, they would all starve to death and die. My feeder dumps 2 pounds of corn twice a day, which isnt very much. A single deer could eat 2 pounds by itself, let alone the whole herd. If anyone thinks im less of a hunter because i use a feeder, that fine with me. I filled my freezer full on opening weekend. But also, i dont keep or eat any catfish that i catch. Im not saying anything about you baiting fish you catch and keep and eat.
Harrison, Arkansas
GO HOGS! WOOOOOO PIG SOOOIIEEE!
Proud supporter of the Brotherhood of Catfisherman
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Jim McCabe (Little_mac)
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Username: Little_mac
Post Number: 143
Registered: 6-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 7:04 pm: |
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IMO there is no difference in using bait for deer than there is for Chumming your favorite spot for catfish, or putting out bait for trapping, Not everyone can run up and down the hollers like the next man, not everyone is the same! as long as its within the laws that the game and fish commission come up with. So from that point its just personal preference. |
Danny Neldon (Three_rivers)
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Username: Three_rivers
Post Number: 434
Registered: 9-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 10:50 pm: |
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Corn is kinda like candy to deer. It doesn't have any nutritional value. If I'm not mistaken it can't be digested.
We put feeders out a couple of years ago and thought it just might pull a good buck in we were seein. Got out there first mornin of muzzleloading season and when the automatic feeder went off, it sounded like a herd of deer rustlin leaves comein to the feeder.
I was stoked listenin to all the ruckus comin my way. The closer it got the more anxious i got. They started comin out the woods one after another and they just kept comin. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 80 turkeys and not one deer. The deer wasn't even interested in the feeder they liked the fresh grown of beans on the ground. |
Mark Williams (Bentpole)
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Username: Bentpole
Post Number: 1025
Registered: 9-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 11:08 pm: |
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I've made several feeder's out of 5 gal bucket's,But the down side is you have to check them more if they are alot of deer around.As Jon stated they can eat alot,
But a 5gal bucket hold's alot of corn.I've found to get them started to eating it quicker is to mix horse sweet feed with the corn,atleast until they find it.after you get them to eating it you can just use corn.THAT IS JUST IMO.
I will try to explain how I make mine they seem to work better than anyway I've found so far.
Take a bucket with lid,In the bottom cut you a hole about an 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 hole.Then get a stick (broom handle )place in hole,about 3-4 inch up from the bottom drill a hole about 1/16,inch on each side across from each other,also drill the hole in the stick.run you a wire (coat hanger)in 1 hole in side of bucket through the stick out the other hole in bucket bend up each end.Hang the bucket up on a limb about chest high leaving the end of the stick about a foot off the ground.pour the feed in the bucket,as you pour alot will come out around the stick to start with,But then it will start to build up & quit running.
As the Deer feed on the ground they will hit the stick & more feed will come out.believe it or not,But they will learn to hit the stick.I've set in a stand & watched them do it.I hope this is plain enough for you to understand.>>>>Bentpole
It's better to ask forgiveness,Than for permission.
Oneonta,Alabama
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mark johnson (Mark_j)
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Username: Mark_j
Post Number: 1460
Registered: 9-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 2:47 am: |
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danny, we have plenty of corn and beans in the field for the deer to eat.
what i have found or figured out here is , if you go to putting corn in the woods the deer will go totally nocturnal. you wind up feeding them practically in their bedroom. there is no need to get up and move around.
my deer feeder just got set up today in the form of a combine picking beans. thats always some good early morning late evening hunting.
the winter wheat is excellent hunting. the acorns are gone and the deer are looking something green .
and danny you are right, the nutritional value of corn to a deer is next to none. thats one reason our deer here arent the big trophies they are in some places.
most of our row crop is corn and beans.
If it aint a Stelling it aint loud enough.
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Bryan Shrum (Whistler)
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Username: Whistler
Post Number: 10106
Registered: 7-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 8:47 am: |
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I made 3 feeders for my woods. Made them from about 5 foot of 3 inch PVC pipe, a 2 liter coke bottle and some scrap plywood. Just strap the pipe to the tree, nail on a piece of 12 by 12" plywood close enough to the feed pipe to allow it to make a pile, but not keep running out on the ground. Cut the bottom of the pipe on an angle to allow it to build up. I used these for about one year, then a wildlife biologist I know told me it was a very bad idea to feed deer. Two reasons he gave me were that it trains them to rely on humans for food to some extent and it congregates many deer all around a central point to feed at the same time. Which he said could spread diseases very easily. Don't know if it's really that bad or not, but I quit using them.
Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee
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Danny Neldon (Three_rivers)
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Username: Three_rivers
Post Number: 443
Registered: 9-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 2:40 am: |
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Mark, gotta love them combines. lol They don't even give them a second look. Even when there runnin they just try to get out of the way. We had a couple strips of beans that just now are comin up, don't ask me why lol. The deer have them eat almost to the ground. I'll hunt over anything green and leafy anyday. Arkansas's acorn crop has exploded in the last few years. Still they love wheat and beans.
Saw 3 does and a 6 pointer this mornin, started to go ahead and take me a nanny and call it a day but didn't feel like cleanin her with the honey do project we had goin on today. Christmas lights a whole car and attic full. lol |
Tyler Fryar (Htfryar)
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 2:45 pm: |
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I live in Arkansas and where I hunt there aren't that many deer. The 20 acres of forested land that my house sits on is surrounded by a golf course in a gated community on one side, a cattle field across the highway that is off limits to hunters, and private land that is off limits to hunters on the other 2 sides.
If I want to draw deer to, and then keep and hold deer on my land, I have no choice but to do some supplemental feeding. Therefore, I do a food plot in the spring/summer months and then again in the fall winter months. It is less than 1 acre in size, I would plant more, but that is the only area that is accesible with a tractor that is not thickety type bedding area or too wet because of the creek on my land. I could bush hog some more areas and plant more, but that would destroy the natural habitat.
In the spring I plant a mixture of soy beans, cowpeas, lab-lab peas, sunflowers, sorghum and clover. In the fall I plant a mixture of clover, turnips, chicory, and ryegrass. I also plant watermelons, cantaloupes and honeydew melons around the edges of the food plot. The deer like the melons as much as I like ice cream, lol. The deer bust them with their hooves and eat the insides and sometimes even the rinds. These melons provide the deer with an additional source of moisture in the summer when the creek is somewhat dry.
I also put out a salt/mineral block.
In addition to the food plot and the salt/mineral block, last summer I purchased a 20 gallon feeder that I fill with a 2 to 1 mixture of high protein deer pellets and deer corn. I refill the feeder about once every 2-3 weeks or so and I keep it filled year round.
The deer pelletixture I use is a mixture of 2 different brands of deer pellets and corn. I bought some Purina Deer chow and some DeerVour from Wildgame Innovations. I mix them 1 part Deer Chow, one part DeerVour and 1 part corn. I am slowly cutting down on the ammount of corn and trying to get them to eat 100% deer pellets as the corn is not good for them. The deer pellets I use in the Spring/Summer months are an average of 20% protein, 6% fat and several vitamins and minerals. The Fall/Winter mixture is an average of 16% protein, 10% fat and several vitamins and minerals.
In years previous, when no supplemental feeding was done, you might see one deer on my land. Now I consistenly see 4 does, and a yearling buck or two. When one of these bucks gets big enough to legally shoot (3 point rule- 3 points on one side) I will kill it given the oppurtunity. I have not seen the 4 does in the last 2 weeks, but last time I did see them, 3 of the 4 were definitely pregnant. Hopefully they will all have at least one fawn born on my property that will get big, fat and healthy on the products I put out for them. If I kill one deer a year off my property, I am happy. The rest of the time (when not catfishing), I like to sit in my stand and film/photo the deer.
If anyone has a problem with the way I do this, they can feel free to criticize/disagree. Not saying it would do anythign to change my mind, but they can still do it. |
chad kilpatrick (Km5qf)
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 2-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 6:53 am: |
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Seems to me you have it all figured out. Food plots a little small but understandable due to land constraints. One thing id suggest is make sure the salt lick is maintained and never allow the corn feeder to go empty.
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