| Author | Message | ||
     Larry Scott Woody (Lswoody) BOC INITIATE Post Number: 16 Registered: 4-2002 Rating: N/A |
Do you guys always aim your bow anticipating the deer to jump the string or do you aim at the heart? Where do you aim if you think a deer will do this? Thanks, Scott Woody | ||
| Jim Stinson (Canuck)  BOC PROTECTORPost Number: 93 Registered: 3-2002 Rating: N/A |
Don't even think the deer will jump the string because U will have NO idea where they will jump. Instead work on your bow to quiet it down and wait for your shot, head down etc | ||
| Shane Herzberg (Ozzman02)  BOC ROYALTYPost Number: 668 Registered: 4-2002 Rating: N/A |
yea there are all kinds of silencers on the market. for your string (obviously) your quiver, limbs,etc... "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" -J.F.K. | ||
| Michael Strawn (Fordman) BOC ROYALTYPost Number: 258 Registered: 6-2002 Rating: N/A |
Ditto on all points covered. Guess which way the deer will jump? Not possible. Quiten the bow as much as possible: 1. Arrow rest, use a plastic covering on the prongs of a shoot through or flipper type rest to quieten the draw. Use adhesive moleskin around the arrow rest in case of accidental contact when nocking an arrow. 2. Quiver, if you detach your quiver from the bow when in the stand (I do, and hang it from a hook) don't forget to tighten the clamps back up to prevent vibration. Why take it off? Each arrow that you remove from the quiver when mounted on the bow, changes your point of impact. Right handed, it moves to the right. Opposite for left handers. Ever see any 3D pros with a bow mounted quiver? It's also quieter that way. 3. Stabilizer: Get a recoil reducing stabilizer. I made one. Aluminum housing, with a carbide weight sandwiched and preloaded between two springs and rubber disks. Zero recoil. I needed this as I shoot only about 5 grains arrow weight to the pound of pull weight, it's real quite too. 4. Limb savers: They reduce vibration on the limbs without loss of arrow speed.(Stay away from acceleration devices which clamp onto the bowstring, they can cost you a string at the least, or a broken bow limb and possible injury) 5. String silencers: Take your pick. I prefer rubber whiskers as I don't have to waste fletch dry powder on them like you do with the fuzzy ones, just in case it rains. 6. Fletching: Pros and cons each way. Feathers are noisier, but maintain more speed past 20 yards. Have to keep them dry. Plastic vanes are quieter, but slower past 20 yards. Plastic vanes can take a "set" from touching anything for a few minutes, bad for accuracy. It gets worse as the temperature drops. 7. Wrist sling: Get one. A zero recoil stabilizer will allow you to cradle the bow instead of grasping it. Upon release, the bow simply rocks slightly forward with no grip induced torque to left or right. Heart shots are nice to brag about, but, how many shots do you get in a year? How big a target is the heart shot? I like double lung shots, about 4 inches above the knee. More room for error if the deer is in a quartering position, or decides to jump, or crouch. All of the above may sound opinionated, but each point that I covered was learned the hard way in either a hunting situation or 3D shooting. You think I'm paranoid! Gee, sorry but WE don't feel that way. | ||
| Wolfman BOC ROYALTYPost Number: 329 Registered: 7-2002 Rating: N/A |
I always aim for the vitals ....always. | ||
| Southcats BOC INITIATE Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2002 Rating: N/A |
my bows to fast for them to jump the string only cause i dont shoot at anything over 40yrds | ||
| Roofbolter BOC INITIATE Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2002 Rating: N/A |
I dont have any trouble with deer jumping when I take a shot. Like the guys say quieting your bow will do the trick. I wont take a shot over 25 yards with a bow, anything over that im afraid that I will not get a good clean kill. God is good all the time. | ||
| Jonathan J. Daniels (Ndfisherman) BOC INITIATE Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2002 Rating: N/A |
Always aim at the vitals and use a silencer ndfisherman | ||
| Robert Plemmons (Rango) BOC ROYALTYPost Number: 352 Registered: 5-2002 Rating: N/A |
i seen a video once about deer and "jumping the string". Shots made at deer with arrows was replayed in slow motion after the miss and it shows that at the instant a deer is startled,, it drops down, then bolts.. this cause arrows to shoot over the deer, but it all happens so fast archers think the deer is jumping and causing the miss, but thats not the case,, they are dropping down and the arrow is passing over them. Ive killed a lot of deer with a bow over the years,, and ive also missed a lot. Ive always felt the misses was due to a release error on my part and not because the deer was startled at the noise of the release and "jumped the string". and this was before the fast compounds they have now. Way back when most guys shot slow recurves,, noise release may have caused a lot of misses from the reaction to release noise and slow arrows. as fast as bows are slinging arrows now days id think it would be almost inpossible for a deer to react to release noise within twenty yards fast enough to casue a miss. Most misses are caused by mistakes from the archer and not the reaction of the deer to the noise of the release | ||
| Trevor Gunter (Deerhunter34) BOC INITIATE Post Number: 5 Registered: 7-2003 Rating: N/A |
If there broadside aim for the heart that way if they jump you will get a double lung shot. | ||
| Jim Pauley (Wvbowhunter)  BOC KNIGHTPost Number: 269 Registered: 3-2003 Rating: N/A |
Don't be fooled by your fast bow and a deer's reaction time. Achieve the quietest bow that you can shoot with as much kinectic energy as possible, always shoot at deer that are not alert and calm, keep your shots short and at good bow kill angles. The best two statements I ever heard on bowhunting were: There is a lot more area outside of deer than on the deer (from a 11 year old boy after emptying a quiver at a deer) hence pick a spot, and I never shoot unless I can pee on em (from a old fellow with over 30 kills back in the mid seventies--unheard of for the time for that many kills with a bow) hence keep your shot short in distance..I've tried two live by those two rules and now have 84 whitetail to my credit. But Honey what could possibly happen? You can never own to many rods! | ||
| Kenneth Petty (Polebender) BOC INITIATE Post Number: 67 Registered: 7-2003 Rating: N/A |
WV, like your way of thinking. Too much hype and gadgets in bowhunting these days. Be quite, sit still, get close and pick a spot! | ||
| Mark Rorrer (Catnaber) BOC INITIATE Post Number: 93 Registered: 8-2002 Rating: N/A |
I shoot an older golden eagle bow that is not real quiet and I have done about all I can to quieten it. The only noise I get is on the release. It's not bad but I still don't take any shot over 25 yds. Don't try to anticipate a deers movement, it can't be done. I've missed deer and had them not move at all and just look at me, (or in my direction), and then simply walk behind something then turn and walk away. Talk about adding insult to injury. The guy I hunt with shot at a spike last year, missed, tried to nock another arrow and dropped it (his last arrow), get mad and throw his release at the deer and it still didn't move more than 15 yds from where he was at the first shot. Now thats buck fever gone bad. Thats about enough to make you want to break your bow. Naaaaaa! Just keep trying. | ||
| Lee Shanklin (Shank) BOC INITIATE Username: Shank Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2005  Rating: N/A |
I feel your Pain. I'm in the same boat with Mark ^ there. I shoot an older Oneida Screaming Eagle. I've got it turned up to 73lbs shooting a 500gr Easton 2315 @ 250fps w/Magnus "Stinger" broadheads. Lots of kinetic energy but also lots of noise. My ladder stand is 20' tall and 20 yds from the feeder. I can watch deer coming in from 30-100yds in 5 diff directions. The 1st deer I shot at on opening Sunday in TX was part my fault. 3Pt "Cull" buck @ 20yds broadside facing left under the feeder. I was shaking so hard I couldn't see straight. This was my 3rd deer I've ever had a chance to take with a bow. My shoulder felt like it was going to explode when I finally hit the release. It was like slow motion watching the arrow fly left. The buck snapped his head up as the arrow shattered when it hit the ground where his neck had been. He jumped so high he hit the feeder that is 6' off the ground. He did a 360, snorted, pawed the ground, Sniffed the arrow and then trotted off. I felt like leaning over the side of the stand and tossin my cookies. Back to the range, I was 18" off @ 20yds. I later found out that it was operator error not Bow malfunction. 2nd Deer I had a chance to shoot at was a nice 2yr old 8pt. Not a trophy by any means but a nice little 14" spread. I eased up from my seat, got into a comfortable position. Drew back and he alerted, looking right at my. That is when I realized I was shaking all the leaves off the Elm Tree I'm in! Needless to say he trotted off. 2nd Deer I shot at. 3rd Sunday of season. Cold front had blown in day before and it was in the low 40's (had been 80-90 all season). Heavy cloud cover. At 0650 I had a nice young doe come in. Followed by 2 fawns, then another Doe, and another. By 830 I had 13 Does & fawns all around me. One very large dominant Doe I wanted to take would only briefly give me a broad shot. I didn't want to shoot and spook all the others away so I waited. About 1030, they all finally started walking away. The 1st doe that came in had left and was coming back for scraps after everybody else left. She presented me with a perfect broadside at 15yds. I drew back calmed down. Took a good aim just behind the shoulder and hit the release. "Thwop". She leaned away and jumped as the arrow impacted the ground just under her. She kicked the arrow as she ran off. This time I wanted to take the Bow and bash my tree stand with it. But.... I had to keep trying. The last weekend of Archery Season found me back in the stand. (of course). The dominant Doe I had seen the week before came in and started chasing off the 2 younger does and 2 fawns I had been watching. Time for her to go. After she chased everybody else off she went to the magic 15yd spot and presented me with a broadside. I did everything I could to stay calm. She stuck her head behind the mesquite tree and left me with a perfect body view. I took careful aim right at the heart and just as I was pulling to hit the release I changed to a high double lung shot. "THWOP!" She lurched and the arrow went right through her lower chest cavity. It split the breast bone and sliced the heart. The blood Trail was about 6" wide for 30 yds. She stopped looked around and then fell over. She was dressed at 115lbs with about 2" of body fat in October. I can't say "Don't Do it". But instead of aiming for the low heart shot. Just aim center for a lung shot. You have a 8" kill zone. The heart is at the bottom of it. Patience, Persistence & lots of luck and It will happen to you. I have since taken 3 more deer but I switched to the trusty old shotgun. All deer I harvested were from 10-17yds this year.  |
