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Chris M Sheafer (Kccats)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, here it is...



It's a very nice sized Hudson tank I purchased cheap from a bait shop. As you can see, it has a "slight" problem... It's very rusty.



Ive got a very limited budget but I realy want a bait tank which will be kept in my garage. I will be having a lot of questions down the road here but the first one is....
What are my options for removing that rust?
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!

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Jim Ames (Oh_no)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 4:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"The Works" toilet bowl cleaner. The thin stuff, not that thick junk.

2 Bucks or less a quart, in the grocery store.

Just squirt it on, and maybe use something like a toilet brush, to work it in.

I think that you are worryed about nothing. As slime and green junk will cover the sides in no time, if you use it for minnies.

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Robert Gilvary (Bobpaul)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 4:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it a stain or has the galvanize wore off?

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Chris M Sheafer (Kccats)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I don't realy know...
It looks to heavy to be just a stain.

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Robert Gilvary (Bobpaul)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 5:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You might try to clean it with a wire brush, paint it with a compatible paint for metal, then use a pool liner like a kids pool or something heavier.

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Robert Gilvary (Bobpaul)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 5:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just don't mention your gonna clean a flathead if you catch it on the bait you keep

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Chris Glass (Catfishcentral)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What are your reasons for trying to get rid of the rust? Is it for apperance or the health of your baitfish? I personally don't think the rust will hurt the health of your fish. But if your wanting to get rid of the rust look I would just use a waterproofing paint like UGL. It costs about 16 bucks a gallon and will adhere very well to galvinized metal.

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J.W.Fisher (Dreadnaught)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ROTFLMAO, Bobpaul that was a good one!!!

Chris, If you must get the rust out,Try a wire wheel brush on a drill . It will be much faster and get almost all of it off. Then I would get some of that zinc oxide paint and re=galvanize it to keep it from rusting again. then I would paint the inside with some kind of water resistant latex paint. You will have to read the label and make sure it will not harm aquatic life to keep from killing your baitfish.
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Robert Gilvary (Bobpaul)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 - 7:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's why I suggested a kids worn out pool as a liner. Nothing toxic to come in contact with the water. There's some heavy material in some of those liners.

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keith sword (Fwmud)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 - 8:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris if you don't like the above suggestions, go to a mobile home parts dealer. They have a spray on chemical for rooftops. It more or less turns the rust to something else and you can simply brush off whats left. We used it in a trailerpark I used to take care of.
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Chris M Sheafer (Kccats)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 - 6:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I saw that product at a farm supply store and it was not too expensive! If I can paint over it with a non toxic paint, it would be GREAT!

Now then... another question guys...
Several people have posted that it will do no harm to the bait fish...
Is that true?
I don't care about having a "prestine" bait tank.
I just want to keep them alive and healthy!

Any body have any real experiance using a rusty tank for a bait tank?

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J.W.Fisher (Dreadnaught)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 - 6:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see no harm in using it like it is, It was apperently working till they replaced it. Plus it could help the bait catch some of those fish with iron poor blood,LOL.
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Rex Birt (Catfish156123)
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Posted on Thursday, April 7, 2005 - 1:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris; I have a stainless steel tank for my chubs minnows or bullheads and have to trouble with rust, But if I were you I would paint or cover that rust with something because it will just get worse. Here is a pic of my tank.

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Chris M Sheafer (Kccats)
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Posted on Friday, April 8, 2005 - 8:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, this weekend I am going to start my project.
First I am going to try the wire brush to remove the rust. If it works, I am going to recoat it with something but I am not sure what right now.
If the wire brush don't get it, I am going to use that spray that turns the rust into something else, and recoat it with something else.
But, right now, I am just going to concentrate on getting the rust out.
I will let you all know how it goes.
Dont have time to do more, because Ive got to go fishing!

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Chris M Sheafer (Kccats)
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 9:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another quesion guys....
This tank will be in my garage. Will these bluegill need a light source? Anyone have any experiance keeping a bait tank in an area that is dark most of the time?

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Geoff Fleming (Kcgeoff)
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can get a new Rubbermaid heavy plastic 100 gallon bait tank at Tractor supply for around $56 plus tax. Seems like that would be alot easier than cleaning that one!
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Geoff, Looks like another great catch that you are holding, Congratulations Brother!!!
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

rust doesnt just go away or cease to exist.
you can descale it, paint it, cover it with bondo, or even masonite siding. but you still got rust.

naval jelly works good and turns the rust black
it will rust again eventually.

the most i would do to it is to take some vinegar and scrub it down.

i would just fill it with water and put fish in it. the fish aint going to know any difference.
the chance you take using chemicals in the tank to get rid of the rust is also the chance you take on contaminating the metal in the tank rendering it unusable.

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Chris Love (Catfishchris21)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 3:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would try to find some rust inhibator, then just paint over that, this may and may not work. I hope that I am not giving you bad advice.

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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a great project Chris. I know I'm jumping ahead of your original question. Last summer I put an aerator in a Gott water cooler to use as a portable livewell for my jonboat. I learned to keep the lid on! Caught b'gills after work, woke up the next morning and they were ALL on the garage floor, every single one jumped out of the cooler. Don't know about the light issue, that's where I was headed. I would highly recommend a seriously strong wire lid if indeed light is needed to reach the fish.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 3:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a pic of my bait tank, uhm I mean aquarium, since the kids have the fished named, I can't use them as bait.

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As a person with many aquariums and different kinds of fish, I would say either leave the rust as is or line it with a rubber pond lining. I certainly would not use any kind of chemical in it. Fish in water are very sensitive to polutants. No matter how well you rinse the tank or scrub it I bet you will never get all the chemicals off or out of the metal. I am sure these kinds of chemicals will quickly kill your bait.

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Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I paint pretty much metal. I would buy a wire brush for my mini-grinder and knock that rust off, then buy a quart of rust-o-leum* paint and brush it on. That would be under $20 and last a good time

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Jason Nichols (Flatheadhunter77)
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ok... here is some good info for ya.. rust isnt what you want to worry about...Its the damn galvanize. The rust is a good sign. It wont harm your fish. That is as long as it isnt flaking so much that it clouds the water. Do not let the water come in contact with the metal..HOW?? PLastic. Go to the paint store and get some plastic shheting that you would use to cover the floor. Double it up and put it in the tank. Hold it down with rocks and fill it up with water and you will be good. Just dont puncture the liner. Now as far as the dark. It wont hurt them a bit. They dont have to have light but a light over the water will attract bugs and they will eat the bugs so you dont have to feed them. Just change your water now and then and you will be fine..
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 6:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would say just put some bait fish in and see how they do. If they don't die then you save yourself some work and money. If they do end up dying then you know to try something different.
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i still cant see that being a bait tank. all i can picture in my mind is a redneck hot tub.
cowboy boots laying by the side of it with a pair of jeans and a flannel shirt. maybe a horse grazing in the background.

If it aint a Stelling it aint loud enough.

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