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     darryl carter (Shovelnose)  BOC PALADINUsername: Shovelnose Post Number: 411 Registered: 9-2002  Rating: N/A |
i recently re-seen this article and would like to see if anyone else feels like this is a questionable channel cat in this picture. looks like the tail does't have the deep fork, and the head don't look like a channel to me. i say this is a bogus record. its a great big fish and i'm glad for him but i'm not so sure about the species i.d. what do you think? is it a blue?  This is the current world record Channelcat caught by W.H.Whaley on Lake Moultrie S.C.! The big Channel tipped the scales at 58 pounds! (Message edited by shovelnose on February 8, 2005)  a bad day of fishing beats a good day at work anytime! | ||
| Jon Grape (Jonfish) BOC INITIATE Username: Jonfish Post Number: 57 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
It is always tough to tell when they get that size in real life letalone in a grainy photo. Your guess is as good as mine. The anal fin looks like a channels though. | ||
| michael holloway (Holloway) BOC INITIATE Username: Holloway Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2005 Rating: N/A |
no its not a channel.in my book its to dark.i have caught them 30 to 40lb and thay look like a channel cat so i wood say no. | ||
| Tim DeWerff (Bearcat)  BOC ROYALTYUsername: Bearcat Post Number: 2037 Registered: 2-2002  Rating: N/A |
The anal fin sure looks like a channel. Besides , they claim there were no blues stocked to santee until after that fish was caught. When channels get big they tend to look a little different than a 5 lbder. JMHO  Catstock 05 july 22 to 24th Carlyle lake Bearcat Nokomis , IL | ||
| Steve Dedon (Baitkiller) BOC PALADINUsername: Baitkiller Post Number: 1106 Registered: 5-2003  Rating: N/A |
All I can say is that that tail looks mighty squared. No I'm not saying its a Flathead, LOL! It may be do to the photo being cut out there and not seening the real backround too. but a Channel does have more of a forked tail then a Blue if I'm not mistaken. <><baitkiller><>  I release ALL THE NICE CATS Akron, Ohio | ||
| Darrell Elgin (Loop) BOC ROYALTYUsername: Loop Post Number: 2714 Registered: 3-2002  Rating: N/A |
Is it or isn't it????????? the debate could go on for ever.I've seen chanels silver,yellow gold,yellow green, dark gray,etc.As far as the looks of th head during a spawn the heads will swell an become distorted.For the tail I've held large channels an blues up an had the tailfold down to where you couldn't see the fork in them. FACT is the fish has been documented as a channel an acepted as a record so it really does make a hill of beans now if it is or it isn't a channel.It is the record an will remain such ubtil someone comes along with a biger one that is accepted as the record. Loop
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| Jon Grape (Jonfish) BOC INITIATE Username: Jonfish Post Number: 58 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
I wonder if bigger channels than that have been caught only to be identified as a big blue. | ||
| Rex Birt (Catfish156123) BOC PALADINUsername: Catfish156123 Post Number: 1089 Registered: 5-2002  Rating: N/A |
Loop; Very good point and I would like to say that I'm sure it was checked out real good before making it a record. We had it happen here in Minnesota a couple years ago. This guy said he got the blue cat out of the Minnesota River. And it was 52 pounds. Will here it would have been a state record. In fact a couple pouder would have made the record. But I have fished catfish in that river for many many years and never got one blue, Not even a small one. So I did not believe it. And it finally came out that it was caught in the Missouri River in South Dakota. So I say if the state says it is a record. It must be a record. Just keep trying to get a bigger one and brake that record and then there will be no questions. Here is a prime sample of dark colored cats and these are channels. Later  catfish156123 Keep Setting That Hook Currie Minnesota | ||
| Charles Jackson III (Cj21) BOC PALADINUsername: Cj21 Post Number: 454 Registered: 8-2004  Rating: N/A |
Nice size fish catfish156123!!! That dont look like a channel cat to me. | ||
| Winston Bush (Metalman) BOC INITIATE Username: Metalman Post Number: 97 Registered: 1-2004  Rating: N/A |
If any of you guys are familiar with Santee Cooper you may have heard of Mac's Camp on the diversion canal. I have known Mac for a long time. He saw the fish and said it was definately a channel. He also told me that before the blues were introduced there were many big channels in the lakes...W | ||
| Rex Birt (Catfish156123) BOC PALADINUsername: Catfish156123 Post Number: 1090 Registered: 5-2002 Rating: N/A |
Like loop said, The color can be from lite to dark and I think I read once the male also gets darker at spawning time and the bottom jaw will get a little longer. As long as the anal fin has less than 30 bones in it. It should be a channel and more is a blue. Later Catfish156123 Keep Setting That Hook Currie Minnesota | ||
| Tom Mills (Beastmaster) BOC ROYALTYUsername: Beastmaster Post Number: 2084 Registered: 5-2003  Rating: |
I've caught channels that where almost black.The fish looks like a channel to me.Blue cat when they get that big usualy have a pot belly. If it ain't a CATFISH it's just BAIT !!! Tom Mills , Chrisman Illinois | ||
| darryl carter (Shovelnose) BOC PALADINUsername: Shovelnose Post Number: 412 Registered: 9-2002 Rating: N/A |
i have seen color variations myself,and agree that if it was or wasn't a channel its still the record the thing that made me question it was the tail looking flat because i read in several articles describeing a channel that that deep forked tail is what destinquishes them from the others and i also read that the blue and channel are commonly called the other in some areas,something like 32 rays on anal fin and a deep fork are the true idenifieing features. loop ,your sure right it dont make a hill of beans i just wanted to see if anyone else thought the same about that tail lookin so flat. a bad day of fishing beats a good day at work anytime! | ||
| darryl carter (Shovelnose) BOC PALADINUsername: Shovelnose Post Number: 413 Registered: 9-2002 Rating: N/A |
i said wrong about the fins rex birt was correct heres what i read Description Ictalurus is Greek and punctatus is Latin, meaning "fish cat" and "spotted," respectively. Channel catfish are easily distinguished from all others, except blue catfish, by their deeply forked tail fin. Unlike flathead catfish, the upper jaw projects beyond the lower jaw. Coloration is olive-brown to slate-blue on the back and sides, shading to silvery-white on the belly. Typically, numerous small, black spots are present, but may be obscured in large adults. The anal fin has 24-29 soft rays, in contrast to the blue catfish which always has 30 or more rays in the anal fin. (Message edited by shovelnose on February 8, 2005) a bad day of fishing beats a good day at work anytime! | ||
| J.W.Fisher (Dreadnaught) BOC PALADINUsername: Dreadnaught Post Number: 801 Registered: 8-2004  Rating: N/A |
It's not going to make a difference in a 100 years from now. But for what it is worth I for one beleive that is a channelcat because Flatheads and Blues don't get that UGLY at that size,so what else could it be,LMAO Dreadnaught If He ain't invited to dinner ,let him go back home!!! CPR I support the release of all cats over 10lbs | ||
| jeremy rich (Cats4uandme)  BOC EMPERORUsername: Cats4uandme Post Number: 4390 Registered: 4-2004  Rating: N/A |
i say its a channel from my knowladge. like tom said, blues when they get that big almost always have a big fat belly and flathead are much longer and thinner looking from the head down. j.m.o. its a channel or one hell of a bullhead. lmao. CATSTOCK 2005 ILLINOIS GATHERING JULY 22-24TH I SUPPORT MY COUNTRY AND ITS ARMED FORCES | ||
| demetrius kinnis (Slimcat) BOC PALADINUsername: Slimcat Post Number: 729 Registered: 12-2003  Rating: N/A |
Evidently it is a channel or they would not have made it a world record. Channels look different from different bodies of water. Catch and Release,ALL big cats.PLEASE!! | ||
| Adam Birt (Captainbirt) BOC INITIATE Username: Captainbirt Post Number: 9 Registered: 2-2005 Rating: N/A |
i agree with cats4u......a big bullhead!!!lol | ||
| Rex Birt (Catfish156123) BOC PALADINUsername: Catfish156123 Post Number: 1114 Registered: 5-2002 Rating: N/A |
I would like to welcome Adam to the site sence I know him quite will. Glad to see you posting and will show you around here this week-end. Not hard to get around and alot of good info and great people on here. And I guess we better get you a mug shot on your profile. Later Catfish156123 Keep Setting That Hook Currie Minnesota | ||
| darryl carter (Shovelnose) BOC PALADINUsername: Shovelnose Post Number: 452 Registered: 9-2002 Rating: N/A |
welcome to the boc adam! look forward to readin your posts. a bad day of fishing beats a good day at work anytime! | ||
| Matt Hardbarger (Teaysvalleyguy) BOC EMPERORUsername: Teaysvalleyguy Post Number: 12137 Registered: 8-2003  Rating: N/A |
Adam welcome to the BOC. Any friend of Rex is a frind of ours. Stink Bait is great, especially on crackers.   | ||
| Brian Stevens (Catcaller) BOC PALADINUsername: Catcaller Post Number: 911 Registered: 7-2004  Rating: N/A |
The number of fins and the shape of the anal fins...rounded for channel...squared for blue cats...are the ways I identify and seperate a blue and a channel. I have seen many color variations in channels...from grey - blue to yellowish...and in blues as well...pale blue (leaning towards white...hence the name missiippii white) to dark blue. Alot of Blues also have hump back..and I've seen channels with swollen heads and lips that made them look like a blue cat if it werent for the amount of fins and the anal fin. I agree with JW...anything that ugly at that weight has to be a channel...because the blue and the flat both at 50 lb plus are a handsome fish. Stop the violins...focus on whirled peas | ||
| jeremy rich (Cats4uandme) BOC EMPERORUsername: Cats4uandme Post Number: 4490 Registered: 4-2004 Rating: N/A |
yes sir. if rex is vouching for ya your alright with me. besides. ya agreed with me. CATSTOCK 2005 ILLINOIS GATHERING JULY 22-24TH I SUPPORT MY COUNTRY AND ITS ARMED FORCES | ||
| Kelly Baker (Kbgrillin) BOC INITIATE Username: Kbgrillin Post Number: 51 Registered: 8-2003 Rating: N/A |
welcome to the boc Adam GO RAZORBACKS !!! K.B. | ||
| christopher rice (Upland) BOC INITIATE Username: Upland Post Number: 22 Registered: 3-2005 Rating: N/A |
I don't think it a channel cat could it be a cross breed fish | ||
| Matthew Arden (Creteus) BOC INITIATE Username: Creteus Post Number: 32 Registered: 3-2005  Rating: N/A |
now this is a new record  | ||
| Doyle Shoot (Doyle)  BOC KNIGHTUsername: Doyle Post Number: 298 Registered: 2-2005  Rating: N/A |
Matthew, it might be in a bout 40 years, who knows you might catch him then and it'll take you both to pick him up.
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| Ronnie (Xtremecatfishin) BOC KNIGHTUsername: Xtremecatfishin Post Number: 271 Registered: 3-2002  Rating: N/A |
matthew like doyle says maybe here in a few years you can postr a before and after picture lol later, Ronnie | ||
| John Yantis (Catatonic)  BOC PROTECTORUsername: Catatonic Post Number: 327 Registered: 7-2003  Rating: N/A |
Channelcats have been known to get rounded tails in their later age, due to spawning habits. It has caused alot of confusion in these here parts. I honestly can't see a bullhead getting that size. It hasn't the potbelliedness of a blue that size, either. I'm too young to have enjoyed the good ol' days, when men were men, women were women, and terrorists were cowards hiding in their holes. Oh, wait a minute, they still do! | ||
| ryan rinck (One_at_a_time) BOC INITIATE Username: One_at_a_time Post Number: 97 Registered: 5-2005  Rating: N/A |
In my opinion It is a world record here i dont think they are gana mess up on somethin like this (I mean comon it is the biggest channel ever recorded its probably not going to look like your avarge channel | ||
| Calvin D. Mabry (Calvin) BOC ROYALTYUsername: Calvin Post Number: 1950 Registered: 8-2003  Rating: N/A |
I have fished Santee Cooper several times and know the Diversion Canal has some huge fish. More importantly, the fish and game people down there in South Carolina see a lot of big fish and they do know the difference between a channel and a blue. Most big channels look pretty rough. I don't think there is any doubt its a channel and the World Record. | ||
| Greg Griffin (Greggofish) BOC INITIATE Username: Greggofish Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2003 Rating: N/A |
Well, they messed up with the record here in NC. Last month they finally came out and said it was Flathead instead of a Channel. The record lasted from 1971 to 2005. It was 40 pounds. There might have been a Channel caught that big in that time but no one will ever know. So....it could happen anywyere and with any record. |
